http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNiWQcr7Z6k&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Some fun clips with Bertrand Serlet, relevant for the topic at hand

Now, for OpenGL they should invest more, if they wanna call os x ‘the most advanced os in the world’, as they do from time to time..

I know that some of the GL features as well as some GLSL features are exposed with extensions, but far from a GL3.1 support and that is also out of date as we are now at GL3.3 for SM4.0 class hardware.

Check this forum discussing the latest OSX GL support: http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=263105#Post263105

GL 3.0 support – 65% (15/23)
GL 3.1 support – 12% (1/8)
GL 3.2 support – 11% (1/9)
GL 3.3 support – 0% (0/9)

Here is your ‘lack’.

Basically we are waiting for the OpenGL 3 context creation to arrive – not the most important part of GL 3+. As for OpenGL 4, Apple hasn’t shipped any hardware with DX11 GPUs yet, so no need for that either.

I guess I don’t really see this ‘lack’ that many developers are complaining about?

However, I wonder why the minor upgrade of the OS costs anything at all? It is like MS would charge you for getting service packs. Okay, I know they’re not the same but really, it was just a minor upgrade!

Sorry guys, I don’t have any problem with Apple and I know that many of my problems came from the fact that I’m quite a newbie in OSX development, just some of them were very frustrating, like that of the OS update.

monoton: I would be also happy to see better OpenGL support on OSX. Actually I had serious plans for cross-platform graphics apps (I mean here Windows, Linux, MacOSX and BSD), but the lack of proper OpenGL support on MacOSX made me stay on Windows-only as MacOSX would have been my second platform of importance.

I would say being able to install the latest xcode and sdk’s is of value, SL would be needed for that ;o)

Also, xcode 4 (which is reportedly quite good) will not run on Leopard.

Also I promote them for their contributions to open source community, many projects gets great contributions from apple (for instance the llvm compiler technology).

I agree with the opengl part you mention.. they have been stuck there too for too long. . Hope they get up to at least 4.0 next summer with 10.7.
My feeling is they have been to busy with the ios releases.. and getting drivers for new chips ready.. not having enough time for a major opengl upgrade. This will soon change though, I think, as games are about to get much stronger foothold on the os x platform these days.

Actually, the previous poster was correct. Apple has never used any form of copy protection except for their high-end applications (i.e. Final Cut Pro). The operating system itself, the developer tools, iLife, iWork, etc. are all free of copy protection. It is one of the major reasons I prefer Apple products.

The iOS ecosystem is very different, but that is the nature of the embedded world, I am afraid.

I tend to disagree when promoting Apple just because they give away developer tools for free. MS also released a free version of its Visual Studio products.

About Snow Leopard, I know that it has some new features but nothing very useful from iPhone development point of view.

Finally about OpenGL, well, MacOSX is still stuck at OpenGL 2.1 even though all the major desktop operating systems (at least Windows and Linux) have OpenGL 4.1 support. Apple’s OpenGL support is far behind its competitors and in this regard I cannot really understand Apple’s strategy as OpenGL supposed to be a core feature of MacOSX.

I understand the “getting used to”.. though for long time mac users it all makes sense with the different menus, keys etc. Also, on a mac the use of the mouse for direct manipulation has always been in focus